Posts by Cold Steel

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Some Good News About Me (Although Anthony Morris Will Be Furious)

by pale.emperor in

just wanted to share with you some good news i'm really excited about.

i have been accepted for university to study psychology and counseling.

my goal is to become a counselor and, in time, to specialize on treating those who have left high control relationships/groups like we all did.. it'll take a few years before im qualified but studying in university has been a dream of mine since i was 12, which was systematically dashed to pieces by watchtower.. .

Cold Steel

Beware the godless communists and their fellow travelers.

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Why Are More JWs Claiming to be Anointed?

by Ding in

most jws i know claim they are happy being in the great crowd.

they'd rather live on a paradise earth and pet lions than go to heaven.. heaven is a place they can't relate to, a place where they don't expect their friends and loved ones to be.. so why are more and more jws claiming to be of the anointed?.

aren't they looked down upon as if they are crazy, proud, ignorant, or engaging in apostate thinking?.

Cold Steel

Ding » They'd rather live on a paradise earth and pet lions than go to heaven.

Well, after the first few trillion years, petting lions could get to be a bore. In fact, just about everything would get to be a bore! If one goes to heaven, one can turn their bodies to energy and span the cosmos and visit all sorts of strange new worlds, learning all the secrets of the Universe.

If one goes to Paradise Earth, one is limited to a mundane existence. Family get-togethers, vegetarian meals with all the tofu you can eat, meetings and petting all the animals you want. You can paint vivid sunsets (or sunrises), play musical instruments, attend more meetings and did I leave anything out. You might even be able to grow beards and plants.

Nah, I can see why people would want to be in Heaven.

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Speaking for God: The Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses

by Tahoe in

very well put together!.

https://youtu.be/yyxg8klhtve.

Cold Steel

But did she KILL anyone?

Being wounded is one thing. Being on a horse certainly has her at an advantage, but she had a number of moralistic attitudes that may have made it difficult, or even impossible, to personally kill someone. We have no accounts of her lopping off someone's head or cutting off a hand or an arm!

There are a lot of women who are good at shooting guns, though. Don't know how they fare in combat, though. I know there are some top notch snipers, though.

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Speaking for God: The Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses

by Tahoe in

very well put together!.

https://youtu.be/yyxg8klhtve.

Cold Steel

Moster » ...women cannot fight (Joan of Arc)

Well, she led, but I don't know if she could fight like, say, Achilles, Sgt. York or my wife, but I'll bet she was still pretty tough.

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Can the GB be directed by Holy Spirit and at the same time be not inspired ?

by Chook in

yes god directs our writings but they're not inspired, so gods directions are staggered and overlapping , so the genuine innocent believing jw has a wonderful life of overlapping bullshit.

so next time you meet a jw priest ask them what is the difference between being directed and inspired, then i promise you will hear first hand an example of overlapping bull..

Cold Steel

The Holy Spirit can't communicate to someone without it being revelation, and revelation has to be perfect and infallible. But the Governing Body can't have it both ways. They can't be led by the Holy Spirit and have it be anything but inspired.

If they don't have the Holy Spirit, then they are blind guides leading the blind.

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Philosophy of religion

by venus in

create a superhuman character performing amazing feats, make him speak very good proverbs and parables which find easy acceptance among people, thus make him an authority on spirituality, and then make him speak business: become rich through improper means (luke 16:1-12) and avoid going into hell by sharing a portion of the ill-gotten wealth to the poor (mathew 25:31-46; contrast luke 16:19-31) which resulted in many orphanages and similar institutions coming into existence with the rich sponsoring them and the management living in luxury while working on behalf of the poor.

or make him provide basis for adoption of rituals that ensures a luxurious living for the management..

Cold Steel

What's your point?

A person goes to Paradise or Hell because of what's in his heart. Neither is permanent; they're where you go to await the resurrection. You can't trick God by works, nor can one be saved by them. One cannot be saved without works (i.e., baptism, etc.), but one cannot be saved by them.

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Does Christianity Promote Self Hatred?

by Brokeback Watchtower in

i think that christianity's teachings pose a very unproductive world view and are a danger to our survival.

their teachings that man is sinful and worthy of death and in need of a savior to rescue him and free him of his sinful tendencies or else feel the wrath of god.

these things that condemn man as sinful are his own powerful drives given to him at conception which he now must deny due to indoctrination and consign to his shadow(jungian).

Cold Steel

Brokeback WT » I wouldn't want to do any biblical hop scotching to make each individual point so I just said it in as little words as possible or in a nut shell if you prefer.

Nevertheless, it's one of the more repulsive doctrines we see coming out of the Protestant movement and is one of the hallmarks of Calvinism. The idea that the Father has given the Son a number of souls worthy of salvation and everyone else is lost except those souls has been hotly debated in the Protestant movement.

Not every branch of Christianity has bought into this self-hatred aspect of the religion, but certainly whole segments have and when they show us what HELL is like, it's not only self hatred but God hatred as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQQOa10O_BE

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we have a laid off bethelite with an engineering degree!

by nowwhat? in

this guy have been at bethel for 25 years when he could have been making 75-100 thousand a year as an engineer.

so they kick him to the curb so they don't have to house him and his wife anymore.

they run into a problem at warwick and they ask him to come back for 3 weeks.

Cold Steel

Fairly simple. As long as these people think they're working for Jehovah's Kingdom on Earth, they'll come back for more abuse. Anyone who gets laid off is going to feel hurt and rejected to a certain degree. But if Jehovah himself calls, who's gonna turn down God?? Maybe Jehovah will take him back and give him a better salary because maybe it was a test!

Like Abraham. Only there's no angel to swoop down and save the day.

Chook » all they have to do is google the words Jw governing body, then they will realise that any company can make money with free labor yet these guys couldn't even do that.

I did that.

They look like the list Patrick Jane had of "Red John" suspects in The Mentalist.

Weird.

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Creationist on their death bed

by Coded Logic in

i would really like to read the thoughts of an creationist as they lie on their deathbed.

their honest thoughts.

their terrors.

Cold Steel

Do they really believe all that noise they spread? As they lay there contemplating their final breaths, do they really believe that soon, they will start a new life. In our ever changing world that teeters on the brink of annihilation, they believe that none of this even mattered and they can just jump into a "perfect" new world?

Yes, I believe everything I've ever told others. I have no doubt that man and animals have spirits, and that they existed before they came to the earth and that they'll continue after they depart this world. I believe intelligence cannot be created nor can it be annihilated. When I look at a dead body, whether it be man or beast, it's obvious to me that something is gone. It's more than a light that goes out. It's like it's gone.

I have no fear of death and am content to go whenever the good Lord calls. (In truth, this is but a figure of speech. I believe our friends and families are the ones who oversee our lives until we're called home. Those who have had near death experiences that I believe have all described what they experience in the same terms. The colors, the vastness of that world which is every bit as vast as our own. The buildings, the plants, even the discussions they had with their friends and families who had previously died. One (who has since passed on for the last time) said they don't like the term "death" because of the connotations it has. Another, who also has passed on, said his father at first rebuked him for the life he'd lived, but then embraced him and told him he could stay. When he asked to go back and put his life in order, his father told him he could return, but that he would come for him in five years. He returned, turned his life completely around and became a whole new person. Some who knew him well had doubts about his story, but he said all they had to do was count the years. Sure enough, five years later he passed. He fell sick and his family swears he called out to his father just before he stopped breathing. So I have no doubts but what he was telling the truth.

Years ago, I became ill. I didn't die, but I had hallucinations. I remember seeing oranges that would change shape on a television screen. Then they changed colors. My wife said I said there were "oranges and pumpkins" on the TV screen. My point is that later I couldn't remember the details, the shapes or even the colors. In fact, I could remember shapes, but no colors, nor anything else. I experienced a hallucination. The people who have near death experiences have memories as any rational man would. Colors, people, who said what when and other things they experienced were all completely non-hallucinatory in nature.

So people can believe what they wish.

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Does Christianity Promote Self Hatred?

by Brokeback Watchtower in

i think that christianity's teachings pose a very unproductive world view and are a danger to our survival.

their teachings that man is sinful and worthy of death and in need of a savior to rescue him and free him of his sinful tendencies or else feel the wrath of god.

these things that condemn man as sinful are his own powerful drives given to him at conception which he now must deny due to indoctrination and consign to his shadow(jungian).

Cold Steel

Their teachings that man is sinful and worthy of death and in need of a savior to rescue him and free him of his sinful tendencies or else feel the wrath of God.

This is only one of the iterations of Christianity. It's not a biblical teaching, nor will you see any of the apostles that taught it. John wrote:

2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.
4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
1 John 3:2-5

Man is not "deserving" of Hell. Christianity teaches that through Adam all men fell. But through Christ, all men would be made alive. In other words, man is created with a type of safety net. Without Christ, we would indeed be lost, without God and without a place in His creations. Christ, however, saves even the worst sinner after he has paid the price of his own sins.

Many Christians are speaking of man's fate without Christ and they assume sinners don't have that safety net. But yes, part of the reason we're placed on Earth is to combat our own natural tendencies to do evil. Through Christ, man achieves the ability to become like God.